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. >>> and meanwhile, syrian president bashar assad made a rare appearance this saturday, the first time he was seen out of his palace since back in march. >>> two more u.s. service members have been killed in action in afghanistan. they were killed by insurgents in the eastern part of that country bringing the death toll this year to at least 257 americans. >>> and a navy s.e.a.l. who gave his life in afghanistan was honored on saturday. the navy's newest ship, the "uss michael murphy," it was commissioned in new york city. the destroyer is named for the first awarded the medal of honor during that war in afghanistan. murphy was killed trying to save fellow s.e.a.l.s during an ambush back in 2005. >>> and nearly two dozen people were injured when a bus overturned in new jersey saturday. the bus traveling from toronto, canada, to new york went off an exit ramp sliding down an embankment before stopping finally on its side. eight of the passengers were critically injured, but none of the injuries are considered life-threatening. police believe the bus driver was driving too fast. >>> and
. >>> and meanwhile, syrian president bashar assad made a rare appearance this saturday, the first time he was seen out of his palace since back in march. >>> two more u.s. service members have been killed in action in afghanistan. they were killed by insurgents in the eastern part of that country bringing the death toll this year to at least 257 americans. >>> and a navy s.e.a.l. who gave his life in afghanistan was honored on saturday. the navy's newest ship, the...
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we should not have called assad a reformer. and -- >> what is your criteria -- >> we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about it. they're still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq -- >> and the opposition is being armed. >> to help bashar assad -- and, by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice president on in iraq, we probably would have been able to prevent that. he failed to achieve that, as well. >> i don't -- >> what is your criteria for interventi intervention? >> in syria? >> worldwide. >> national security of the american people. it's got to be in the national interest of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, that's got to be within the national security interest of the american people. >> i want to -- we're almost out of time here. >> 'em bar goeps and sanctions and overflights, those are th
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ensure that they obtain the arms they need to defeat assad's tanks and helicopters and fighter jets. >> reporter: romney's aide saying romney is not suggesting the u.s. arm the rebels directly. president obama has opposed providing weapons to the rebels partly out of concern that those weapons could wind up in the hands of terrorists. on iran mitt romney earlier this year saying this. >> if we re-elect barack obama, iran will have a nuclear weapon. >> reporter: but today was unclear what exactly romney would do that would be different. the obama administration imposing tough sanctions already. >> i will not hesitate to impose new sanctions on iran and will tighten the sanctions we currently have. >> reporter: the obama campaign asking just what would those new sanctions be, and on libya after the attack in benghazi that killed four americans including ambassador chris stevens, blistering words today from romeny for the obama administration. >> this latest assault can't be blamed on a reprehensible video insulting islam despite the administration's attempts to convince us of that for
ensure that they obtain the arms they need to defeat assad's tanks and helicopters and fighter jets. >> reporter: romney's aide saying romney is not suggesting the u.s. arm the rebels directly. president obama has opposed providing weapons to the rebels partly out of concern that those weapons could wind up in the hands of terrorists. on iran mitt romney earlier this year saying this. >> if we re-elect barack obama, iran will have a nuclear weapon. >> reporter: but today was...
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we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances. putting american troops on the ground, that has to be within the national security interests of the american people. embargoes and sanctions -- those are things that do not put american troops on the ground. if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our interests. >> i want to return home for the last few questions. this debate is historic. we have two catholic candidates, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both to tell me what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion
we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own...
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there is no political organization to assad. so as bad as this is right now, we could make it a whole lot worse by dumping a lot of weapons in and then having a collapse and then having al-qaeda there taking over another base that we'll have to fight. so as painful as it is, there's a right way to do this if we want to help those who seek freedom and that is work the political opposition first before you start shoveling your weapons in. >> general clark and ambassador, you both made great points. and we have to move on our to fourth story "outfront," mitt romney speaking at length about the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi that killed ambassador stevens and three others and what he would do about the situation there. >> in libya, i'll support the libyan people's efforts to forge a lasting government that represents all of them. and i'll vigorously pursue the terrorists who attacked our consulate in benghazi and killed our fellow americans. >> eli lake has been out on the libya story from the beginning with what th
there is no political organization to assad. so as bad as this is right now, we could make it a whole lot worse by dumping a lot of weapons in and then having a collapse and then having al-qaeda there taking over another base that we'll have to fight. so as painful as it is, there's a right way to do this if we want to help those who seek freedom and that is work the political opposition first before you start shoveling your weapons in. >> general clark and ambassador, you both made great...
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after international pressure, then president obama said bashar assad should go. it's been over a year. the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people, and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country, so the longer this has gone on, the more people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified a free syrian army, freedom fighters, working with alice, the turks, the qataris, the saudis, had we had a better plan in place working with our allies. but, no, we waited for kofi annan to come up with an agreement with the u.n. that bought bashar al assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the u.n. and meanwhile about 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? you notice, he never answers the question. >> we wouldn't be go through all of the u.n. and all of these things. >> we don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe, the turk
after international pressure, then president obama said bashar assad should go. it's been over a year. the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people, and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country, so the longer this has gone on, the more people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified a free syrian army, freedom fighters, working with alice, the turks, the qataris, the saudis, had we had a better plan in place working with our allies....
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syria are in fact being fired by weapons that turkey provided to the rebels to help them fight the assad regime so you have those rather i want to situation where turkey is being fired on by weaponry that itself supplied to the rebels in addition to those we're also now receiving several reports that the syrian army of the kurdistan workers party is forming an army just fifteen kilometers from the turkish border and now the fighting which is concentrated in northern syria has seen kurds take advantage of the situation never really came to several cities their economy they wanted independence from damascus but they have also now becoming a problem for turkey turkey of course is no stranger to the kurdish problem just overnight turkish jets were firing at kurdish china in northern iraq so here too you have a situation where turkey in its assistance to the rebels to find assad is now having to fight we could see and seen an escalation in that problem as well. and a change of course in the middle east and later we'll look at mitt romney's criticism of who was foreign policy and why the repub
syria are in fact being fired by weapons that turkey provided to the rebels to help them fight the assad regime so you have those rather i want to situation where turkey is being fired on by weaponry that itself supplied to the rebels in addition to those we're also now receiving several reports that the syrian army of the kurdistan workers party is forming an army just fifteen kilometers from the turkish border and now the fighting which is concentrated in northern syria has seen kurds take...
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and that bought bashar assad time. we gave them veto power and 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? you notice, he never answers the question. >> we wouldn't be go through all of the u.n. and all of these things. >> we don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe the turks believe, the jordanians believe, the saudis believe, are the free forces inside of syria. that's under way. allies all on the same page. nato as well as our arab allies. in terms of trying to get a settlement. that was their idea. we were the ones that said enough. with regard to the reset not working, the fact of the matter is that russia has a different interest in syria than we do, and that's not in our interest. >> what happens if assad does not fall? congressman ryan? what happens to the region? what happens if he hangs on? >> then iran keeps their greatest ally in th
and that bought bashar assad time. we gave them veto power and 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? you notice, he never answers the question. >> we wouldn't be go through all of the u.n. and all of these things. >> we don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe the turks believe, the jordanians...
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rainy and cargo plane that was bound for syria carrying military supplies for the troops loyal to the assad government so that tension in same setting up this meeting and setting up these deals that have been signed here in moscow all right peter all of our thank you. israel's prime minister has ordered a parliamentary election to take place early next year eight months ahead of schedule benjamin netanyahu is believed to be a banking on me swift poll to secure his reelection and a majority for his party right now he's struggling to get his austerity budget passed while brown bring up the war talk against iran election success could embolden netanyahu who's long been threatening an offensive against half crown but it's thought that striking before the vote could mean electoral defeat america's presidential election is also considered a major factor in the prime minister's decision as israeli historian and journalist dr ron paul explains. is taking advantage of situation the budget is. that to pass a budget is difficult but you could have done it but this is the best time for response to view
rainy and cargo plane that was bound for syria carrying military supplies for the troops loyal to the assad government so that tension in same setting up this meeting and setting up these deals that have been signed here in moscow all right peter all of our thank you. israel's prime minister has ordered a parliamentary election to take place early next year eight months ahead of schedule benjamin netanyahu is believed to be a banking on me swift poll to secure his reelection and a majority for...
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that bought bashar assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the u.n., and, meanwhile, about 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? have you noticed he never answers the question. >> we would not be going through the u.n. in all of these things. >> you don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe the saudis believe. that is underway. our allies are all on the same page. nato as well as our arab allies. in terms of trying to get a settlement. we are the ones that said enough. with regard to the reset not working, the fact of the matter is that russia has a different interest in syria than we do, and that's not in our interest. >> what happens if assad does not fall? congressman ryan? what happens to the region? what happens if he hangs on? what happens if he does? >> then iran keeps their greatest ally in the region. he
that bought bashar assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the u.n., and, meanwhile, about 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? have you noticed he never answers the question. >> we would not be going through the u.n. in all of these things. >> you don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces...
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iran is sending arms to assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. we should be working no less vigorously through international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran, rather than sitting on the sidelines. it is essential that we develop influence with those forces in syria that will one day lead a country that sits at the heart of the middle east. in afghanistan, i will pursue our real and successful transition to afghan security forces by the end of 2014. president obama what have you believe that anyone who disagrees with his decisions in afghanistan is arguing for endless war. but the route to more and potential -- route to war and potential attacks on is a politically it time to retreat that abandons the afghans to people, the same extremists who launched 9/11. i will evaluate conditions on the ground and with the best device of our military commanders, and i will affirm that my duty is not to protect my political prospects, but to protect the security of the nation. finally, i will recommit and are cut to th
iran is sending arms to assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. we should be working no less vigorously through international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran, rather than sitting on the sidelines. it is essential that we develop influence with those forces in syria that will one day lead a country that sits at the heart of the middle east. in afghanistan, i will pursue our real and successful transition to afghan...
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to work with other nations to arm rebels in syria with reupons that can defeat bashir al assad's army. at a rally in florida, romney promised to be a strong international leader if elected. >> when i'm president oil take the care it takes to rebuild our principles and restore the principles that made america strong. >> reporter: the republican nominee couldn't resist taking another shot at the president's debate performance. >> now of course days later we're hearing his excuses and next january we'll watch him leave the white house for the last time. >> reporter: there's two more debates schedule. later this week is the vice presidential debate. now the obama camp is dismissing the romney speech saying it's a third or fourth time to explain his intentions. >> there are two presidential debates left in campaign 2012. but on thursday the vice presidential candidates go head-to-head. usually there's little attention paid to the debate between vp candidates but as bill plante reports this year is different. roll it's biden versus ryan. age versus youth. a great society liberal. >> we're g
to work with other nations to arm rebels in syria with reupons that can defeat bashir al assad's army. at a rally in florida, romney promised to be a strong international leader if elected. >> when i'm president oil take the care it takes to rebuild our principles and restore the principles that made america strong. >> reporter: the republican nominee couldn't resist taking another shot at the president's debate performance. >> now of course days later we're hearing his...
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we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances. putting american troops on the ground, that has to be within the national security interests of the american people. embargoes and sanctions -- those are things that do not put american troops on the ground. if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our interests. >> i want to return home for the last few questions. this debate is historic. we have two catholic and its, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both to tell me what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion. p
we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own...
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about whose hands the weapons would end up in because the objective that he stated it was to defeat assad seeing it as a stepping stone to iran iran is sending arms to assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them we should be working no less vigorously to our international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran rather than sitting on the sidelines so basically mitt romney suggested taking advantage of the crisis in syria to fulfill the goal of defeating iran and blatant but straightforward remark basically expressing the same opportunistic approach to foreign policy with the u.s. has had for many years while obama campaign called romney reckless and amateurish when it comes to foreign policy so far the administration has stopped short of directly arming the rebels although washington is coordinating the efforts of their allies in the region that is saudi arabia qatar turkey which are providing weapons to the rebels one way or another but those allies are saying that they only provide smaller weapons that they would love to s
about whose hands the weapons would end up in because the objective that he stated it was to defeat assad seeing it as a stepping stone to iran iran is sending arms to assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them we should be working no less vigorously to our international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran rather than sitting on the sidelines so basically mitt romney suggested taking advantage of the crisis in syria to...
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obama said, we want assad out of power. he has substantive things to talk about on the debate stage when they debate foreign policy in two weeks and that ad is now irrelevant. >> don't you think this is a case of him saying, i'll do the things the president is trying to do but do them more effectively? >> there's a fair case to make and there's an opening for that. >> i agree. i'm not saying that's a bad thing. >> there's an opening the size of a pin drop. he didn't lay out his strategy for peace in israel. on iran, the best he could come up with was, i'm going to get tougher on iran because i'm going to have tougher sanctions. >> when barack obama came to office, he said, i'm not george w. bush, so therefore, i can negotiate with iran. >> he said he would open up all doors but he wasn't going to give you a seat at the table unless you wanted to come and talk peace. >> we have unsolicited advice on the other side of the break including helpful hints for donald trump. stay with us. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] its lightweight
obama said, we want assad out of power. he has substantive things to talk about on the debate stage when they debate foreign policy in two weeks and that ad is now irrelevant. >> don't you think this is a case of him saying, i'll do the things the president is trying to do but do them more effectively? >> there's a fair case to make and there's an opening for that. >> i agree. i'm not saying that's a bad thing. >> there's an opening the size of a pin drop. he didn't lay...
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sresident assad's regime is fighting for the survival, and it's unlikely that he wants to antagonize a powerful neighbor like turkey. but the bloody chaos that's cost housanf thousands of lives inside syria, now threatens to entangle other countries, even if they don't really want to fight. holly williams, cbs news, istanbul, turkey. gh axelrod: now to afghanistan where two u.s. soldiers were .illed today by insurgents. it happened in the eastern section of the country that's seen heavy fighting in recent months. tomorrow marks the 11th anniversary of the start of the fghan war. coming up, a vatican insider nvicteted. stay with us. >> axelrod: at the vatican the verdict is in-- the pope's butler did it, found guilty of stealing papers from his boss and leaking them to the press. alan pizzey has been following intrigueigue. o reporter: paolo gabriele's record of seven years of alithful service as the papal ogyler and his apology to vinedict xvi earned him a reduced sentence. he said he acted out of what he called a visceral love for the church and the pope and told the court, "i do no
sresident assad's regime is fighting for the survival, and it's unlikely that he wants to antagonize a powerful neighbor like turkey. but the bloody chaos that's cost housanf thousands of lives inside syria, now threatens to entangle other countries, even if they don't really want to fight. holly williams, cbs news, istanbul, turkey. gh axelrod: now to afghanistan where two u.s. soldiers were .illed today by insurgents. it happened in the eastern section of the country that's seen heavy...
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we should not have called bashar al assad a reformer when he was providing guns on his own people. we should always stand up for pea peace, for democracy, for individual rights. and we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that does, when we ekwiv cate on our values, show that we're cutting our own defense, it makes us more weak, it projects weakness. when we look weak our adversaries are willing to test us and our allies are willing to test -- >> with all due respect that's a bunch of mularkemularkey. not a single thing he said is accurate. >> be specific. >> i will be very specific. number one, this lecture on embassy security, the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for. number one. so much for the embassy security piece. number two, governor romney, before he knew the facts, before he even knew that our ambassador was killed, he was out making a political statement which was panned by the media around the world. an this talk about this weakness, i don't understand what my friend is talking about he
we should not have called bashar al assad a reformer when he was providing guns on his own people. we should always stand up for pea peace, for democracy, for individual rights. and we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that does, when we ekwiv cate on our values, show that we're cutting our own defense, it makes us more weak, it projects weakness. when we look weak our adversaries are willing to test us and our allies are willing to test -- >> with all due...
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hillary clinton was the one who called assad a reformer. paul ryan was correct when he said that. >> okay. now, hold your horses for a second. we went back and found that secretary clinton actually said and she does not call mr. assad a reformer. to suggest otherwise is a complete distortion. she's actually referring to other senators who went over who described him as such. so that was an outright lie, but i guess the spokeswoman has now been affected by the same disease. we lie about our marathon times, we lie about gm motors and the factory, and then we lie about what the secretary of state says. that's just the norm now, is it? >> and we clech our pearls about how mean and nasty the democrats are. we just won't let us say what we want to say that isn't true. when you lose a debate you sort of clutch for anything and grab for anything. the fact that almost everyone who is speaking up for the romney/ryan ticket today is focused on syria. syria, the one issue that was discussed last night that 99.9% of voters are not voting on in this elec
hillary clinton was the one who called assad a reformer. paul ryan was correct when he said that. >> okay. now, hold your horses for a second. we went back and found that secretary clinton actually said and she does not call mr. assad a reformer. to suggest otherwise is a complete distortion. she's actually referring to other senators who went over who described him as such. so that was an outright lie, but i guess the spokeswoman has now been affected by the same disease. we lie about...
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iran is sending flights over iraq to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we would probably have this. >> what is in the national interests of the american people. the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, has to be within the national security interest of the american people. that means things like embargoes and sanctions, those are the things that don't put the troops on the ground. but if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our national security interest. >> i want to return home for these last few questions. this debate is indeed historic. we have two catholic candidates, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion? please talk about how you came to that decision. talk about
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michael, the president urges assad to step down. he supports arab efforts in their opposition to the syrian government. given the instability of libya and egypt, isn't the president's cautious approach to syria the right one unless, and i repeat, unless we want to get involved in another war? >> hi, martin. well, to be honest with you, i think there is a fairly narrow range of disagreement between the two men here because, as you know, if we think about this kind of a war and we think of all of our range of possible interventions, providing or asking our allies to provide a few more weapons is a relatively modest step along the spectrum. we're not talking about american planes creating a no-fly zone in the romney speech. we're not talking about creation of any kind of a humanitarian protected ground zone up in the north -- >> but, michael, i'm sorry to interrupt you, mike, but we wouldn't expect any details from this man because he never gives us any. t the overarching theme is he wants a new approach. not the approach being expedit
michael, the president urges assad to step down. he supports arab efforts in their opposition to the syrian government. given the instability of libya and egypt, isn't the president's cautious approach to syria the right one unless, and i repeat, unless we want to get involved in another war? >> hi, martin. well, to be honest with you, i think there is a fairly narrow range of disagreement between the two men here because, as you know, if we think about this kind of a war and we think of...
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failed to lead in syria where more than 30,000 men, women, and children have been massacred by the assad regime over the past 20 months. we can't support our friends and defeat our enemies in the middle east when our words are not backed up by deeds. i'll put the leaders of iran on notice that the united states and our friends and allies will prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. no friend of america will question our commitment to support them. no enemy that attacks america will question our resolve to defeat them. and no one anywhere, friend or foe, will doubt america's capability to back up our words. >> well, you got to wonder about that guy. we should have stayed longer in iraq, open-ended conflict in afghanistan. regardless of the fact we know little about them and onto iran and talks of a red line that almost guarantees conflict. if you want clarity in what a romney presidency would look like don't ask the candidates's own porn -- foreign policy. advisers say they have engaged with him so little on issues of national security they are uncertain what camp he would
failed to lead in syria where more than 30,000 men, women, and children have been massacred by the assad regime over the past 20 months. we can't support our friends and defeat our enemies in the middle east when our words are not backed up by deeds. i'll put the leaders of iran on notice that the united states and our friends and allies will prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. no friend of america will question our commitment to support them. no enemy that attacks america...